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let me introduce myself I'm Vernon

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Nicholas I'm the research director at

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equilibrium energy and education in

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Chicago Illinois and we are a

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research-based Wellness Center that's

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dedicated to the study and practical

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application of energy based therapies

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I'm actually joined here by my

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collaborator in this research Bernadette

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Duran who's in the audience with me and

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she's also the founder and director of

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equilibrium in Chicago and we're here

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today to give you some of the results

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and findings of our research regarding

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some more about the energetic

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underpinnings about what happens when

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the Bankston method occurs and just

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gives you a more systematic

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understanding into the nature of healing

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and specifically what happens when we do

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build image cycling and before we dig

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can I just use

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no no no I thought the

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absolutely

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great Thank You Todd okay great right

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okay well before we begin I wanted to

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thank a couple folks first I wanted to

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thank bill for introducing us to sse and

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for inviting us to speak with you about

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our method but also one of the thing

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britta'd that Duran who is a founder and

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owner of equilibrium and she's one of

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the most talented visionaries and

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healers that I've ever met and having

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seen all the positive transformations

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that she's made and other people's lives

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have really inspired me to try and

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understand how energy healing works in a

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more systematic and defined way and I

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wanted to everyone is familiar with

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Bill's research many of us are familiar

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with Bill's research about his focus on

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saving the rodents from certain death

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from mammary cancer and as you can see

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there on the left is an example of a

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mouse that he's injected with cancer and

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what happened on the right of what

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happens to the mouse after they go

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through the banks and treatment and the

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way the Benson treatment occurs it's

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initiated by a process called image

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cycling and image cycling is just the

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subjective means of initiating the flow

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of energy from the therapist to the per

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individual or the mouse getting the

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healing and a lot of the questions over

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the years have arisen what is exactly

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happening when we go through the Benson

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method and image cycling what are the

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energetic underpinnings and that's part

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of the reason why last year bill decided

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to do a double-blind experiment where he

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actually laid in an MRI machine and held

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a series of envelopes some of that

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envelopes actually had it's a blank

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index card it had nothing in it and what

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some other envelopes actually had a hair

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sample from an animal with cancer so the

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question was when he held the envelope

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with the sample at a hair sample with

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cancer did the brain respond

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autonomically to stimulus that's in need

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of healing and if you see no response

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you'll really see no reaction for the

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brain in the fMRI scans and then

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the picture above there represents the

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controller on what you would typically

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see but when he bill held envelopes he

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realized that although he himself was

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not able to subjectively tell what

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contained the hair sample versus what

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contained a blank index card the brain

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certainly knew what was in each envelope

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where you see an active frontal lobe a

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energy sent activation when he held the

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envelope with the hair sample and it

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turned off when he held the blank index

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card so what did all this suggest and it

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suggested and it reinforced the notion

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that you don't really need an active

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belief or intention to heal to produce

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or trigger some response from the brain

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now this isn't necessarily saying that a

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healing response is occurring when the

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brain fires when the interior lobes

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start to fire but what this does suggest

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is that the brain has an autonomic

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response and there are other aspects

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that are going on that are working on

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the subconscious level that we don't

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necessarily have control over and we've

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seen a lot of research focused on aegs

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MRIs but what other ways have we looked

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at that helped us determine give us a

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more systematic understanding of the

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nature of energy healing what other ways

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can we measure an autonomic response and

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one of those ways is through a

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technology called gas discharge

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visualization and guess discharge

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visualization which I'll refer to as gdv

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was developed by dr. Constantine karakov

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back in 1995 he's a Russian biophysicist

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professor and that's it's all about

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getting that the glow or about quantum

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light emissions of each of the fingers

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so what happened we have folks put their

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fingers on an electrode and we send

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lesson1 milligauss of energy to excite

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the bio photons around each of the

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fingers and that emits and that excites

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the the bio photons around each of the

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fingers and those bio photons the

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mission is captured by the digital

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camera and because it's captured by

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digital camera it allows us to do some

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quantitative analysis on the size of

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that energy

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a glow now Karaka believes that we can

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really understand how we process and

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absorb energy through these scans of

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each of the fingertips and karakov

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himself has done some independent

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research and looked at different sectors

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of different fingers borrowing from the

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traditions of Eastern medicine where

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each different part of the finger

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corresponds to different organ or a

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different system and they've been

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verified through clinical trials so if

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you look at the far right and you see a

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scan of the thumb you can see how that

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that bottom part of the thumb refers to

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the throat or the thyroid gland then you

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see some missing emissions there it

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shows that there's an under activity of

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energy a sort of diminished fatality of

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life force or energy that's in the

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throat or the thyroid and the key to GDP

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is really understanding the number of

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pixels that appear in each sectors so

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the idea is that when you add the number

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of pixels across all the different

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sectors across all the different fingers

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what you can finally calculate is the

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size of the energy field for any one

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given individual and that's the

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quantitative measure that we're going to

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be talking with you today now this

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technology continues to be vetted and it

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was approved by the Russian Ministry of

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Health following a series of clinical

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trials so it's gone through a rigorous

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vetting process and if you'd like to

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read more there have been over 80 papers

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that had been summarized in the

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meta-analysis in the Journal of

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alternative and complementary medicine

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and you see other institutions and

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organizations who have really taken gdv

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and looked at it into a more more

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detailed vetting process now the reason

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we're focused on GTV is because it can

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help us understand whether there are any

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particular energy signature patterns and

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so we wanted to find out there are

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envelope experiment is there a specific

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energy signature to the Bengston method

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because that really helps add to the

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literature behind energy healing of a

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more systematic understanding of the

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nature of healing and it can help us

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understand that

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Metzenbaum in healing but the second

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whether these scans just like the EEG s

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and the MRIs that we've seen and prior

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research do those also reveal an

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autonomic response in the energy field

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and if they do involve an autonomic

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response what exactly happens so when we

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conducted the envelope experiment we had

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nine participants involved including

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myself all of us were either were

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trained by Bill as he visited us in

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Chicago during an in-person weekend

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workshop last March and one person

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actually was trained using his sounds

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true CD program and all the folks that

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came in came from wide range of

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occupations some of us work in fast

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other folks are teachers or energy

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psychologists or energy workers are

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nurses so we came from a wide range of

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backgrounds and I can't have talked to a

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little bit earlier today about the

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nature resident bonding and all the

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folks that came in today we had a

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varying level of familiarity with each

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other we did not come in all friends all

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acquaintances some of us did not know

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each other when we first started this

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experiment so there was a varying degree

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of familiarity with everybody in the

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group and we all volunteered to

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participate so there may have been some

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potential self selection bias now when

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conduct experiment we instructed

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we wanted to avoid conscious cycling to

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make sure that effect was taken out the

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intent of image cycling was removed from

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the the ultimate scans so as you can see

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there we took a scan of everybody before

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holding an envelope we had only one

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person hold at one envelope at a time to

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avoid any interaction effects of

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multiple people holding multiple

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envelopes at the same time and then we

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undergoing Bengston treatments from

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Bernadette or they were blank index

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cards so the none of us knew what was in

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the envelope and we actually had more

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envelopes than we had people to

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introduce a little bit of extra

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randomness in the experiment so the

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hypothesis was that anybody who's

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with names in it of cancer patients we

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response among those therapists and we

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shouldn't see any kind of response among

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the folks who are holding a blank index

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card but in order to make a lot of sense

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of the results we have to first define

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what the Bankston energy signature looks

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like because it could mean a whole lot

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of different things and the nice

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advantage of working at a Wellness

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Center such as equilibrium is that folks

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come Nasik and they ask us can we have a

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Bankston treatment and so we use that

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opportunity to get a pre read and a post

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read of what happens to them after each

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of those treatments taking these gdv

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scans and to make sense of the results

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when you have to look at two sets of

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finger scans for each individual's now

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the first set of scans when people place

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their fingers on the electrodes we don't

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use a plastic filter right on the

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electrode and that enables us to capture

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um the amount of sweat on our fingers

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and because of that it reflects back

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tivity level of the sympathetic nervous

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system and korotkov claims that that

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emotional constitution of the individual

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now we take a second set of scans when

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we look at the we put a polyethylene

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filter right on the electrode and that

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prevents the sweat from being picked up

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by the gdv scan and that reflects the

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activity level or the parasympathetic

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nervous system which reflects the

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physical condition of the individual and

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so when you'll see here in the next

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series of slides is just what happens to

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keep

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energy fields both from a physical which

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is the blue bar and an emotional which

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is a red bar and what you see here is

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the pre versus post impact so at a

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hundred meaning no real change you saw

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on average no real change to an

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individual's physical energy field after

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Bankston treatment but when you look at

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the emotional field you saw about a five

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percent decrease on an emotional field

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on average and it's not necessarily a

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hugely significant difference but it's a

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consistent difference the trend is there

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we don't have the numbers for

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statistical significance but the trend

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is certainly there so the big question

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is isn't this Benson method going

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through the root cause it's a

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penetrating to the root cause of disease

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which often begins on an emotional level

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is that why can heal a lot of diseases

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such as cancer or some of these really

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challenging diseases that aren't

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necessarily based on a from a physical

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root cause now we also wanted to look at

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what happens between a therapist and a

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recipient who conduct the Bankston

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method and when we looked at therapists

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you saw the same shrinkage and emotional

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field and about the same stability and

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the physical energy field and when you

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looked at the recipient again the same

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shrinkage in the emotional field of the

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recipient but there was a little bit of

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expansion in the recipients physical

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field so they were definitely getting a

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benefit from the Bengston treatments now

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the question that this produces is that

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we see the similarity between the

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therapist and the recipient does that

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mean that there's some sort of resident

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bonding going on between a therapist and

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a recipient when a Bengston treatment

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occurs unanswered question now what

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you'll see here is a series of slides

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and on the x-axis is the size of the

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energy field before banks and treatment

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and on the y-axis the size of the energy

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field after the treatment and I'm really

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impressed by the strength of the

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predictability and the correlation

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between the pre and post in the

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emotional energy field and you don't

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really see that in the physical energy

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field that's a really sharp contrast and

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the predictability

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for and after now well because when

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equilibrium the Backson method is one of

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our favorite methods of energy work but

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we also have a couple other popular

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forms of energy work including Reiki

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which is a hands-on another hands-on

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form of healing and holographic memory

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resolution which is a form of energy

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psychology and when you look at those

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r-squared values is strength of the

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predictability between the pre and post

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Fields in those particular modalities

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you don't see that same effect for Ricky

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and holographic memory resolution and in

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fact when you look at those two

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particular modalities it's a little bit

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stronger for the physical field than it

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is for the emotional field so you can

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see that the Bankston method has

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potentially what we call a unique and

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energy signature is this enough data to

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say that there's a unique energy

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signature to the Bankston method I don't

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know it's one of the questions but there

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certainly shows that there's a clear

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difference with Venson method versus

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other popular forms of energy huge

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healing now we know that because

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different sectors of the finger

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correspond to different aspects of the

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body when Karaka of claims you can also

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measure the size and the vitality of

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different chakras within the system so

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the output this is some one output that

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you see from a typical gdv scan and

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don't ignore right now the alignment of

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where the balls are but the bigger the

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balls the bigger the chakra size and so

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that's what somebody looks like before

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coming in for banks and treatment and

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then that's what somebody would look

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like after they come in for a treatment

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now what is the the denominator what is

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a theme that you see shrinkage in the

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size of the chakras and then that's what

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we tend to see in general that the

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Bankson method tends to shrink the major

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energy centers after treatment and so

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the possible explanation is that when

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the system becomes excited and emission

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of energy tends to occur but that causes

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the system to go to a lower state of

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energy and then that could be a cause of

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the shrinkage and that's all driven by

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what happens in

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cycling so an image fight cycling you're

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thinking about your most ardent desires

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done the wishes that you want most

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fulfilled and sometimes it gets you

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excited now when you look at across all

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the different seven major energy centers

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you see that shrinkage pretty consistent

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so there's not one place in in the the

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body that's necessarily more active or

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more shrinking than than another and

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when we wanted to put this in the

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context looking at reiki and holographic

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memory resolution the question is do we

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see the same kind of shrinkage in those

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two modalities versus Bengston method

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and the answer is no we actually see

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more expansion in the chakras with Reiki

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and more expansion with holographic

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memory resolution so this is another

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data point to suggest that there could

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be a unique energy signature to the

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Bankston matter so that leads us now

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that we're grounded on what the

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potential unique energy signature is

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from a Bengston method that leads us

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that gives us the opportunity to

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understand the envelope experiment

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results so we know just to recap we see

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shrinkage and emotional energy fields we

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see no huge change in the physical

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energy fields and we see shrinkage

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overall from most of the chakras and you

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can see there's more shrinkage when

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people who held the Mane's you can see

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and the people with no names there's a

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pretty similar response among people

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with and without names an envelope you

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can see that the correlation still

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pretty strong before and after and even

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people with versus without an envelope

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and the physical energy field still

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doesn't exhibit any kind of relationship

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when you look at the change in the

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chakra size you can see that the people

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with the names actually had a slightly

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greater energetic response and the

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people without the names but they still

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look like there was a Bankston signature

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going on and when you looked at the

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excitement levels the excitement levels

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of the people with names and without

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names increased to a similar degree so

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again that suggests that there's some

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resident

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going on now when we ask people if they

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felt like they had a name in their

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envelope people were not correct in

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their subjective interpretation so it

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just goes to the bills point and then

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he's made several times before that more

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objective data behind energy is healing

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is needed and that so much an energy

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work is assumed and objective data is

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really needed when trying to understand

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the impact of energy healing now we also

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looked at the different variation of the

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envelope experiment because of the fact

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that we had so many participants did

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those group effects did resident bonding

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affect our results in any way well this

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time we only had Bernadette participate

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and we had her go through the same

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instructions as we shared with a group

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now this was her baseline read on the

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far left and unbeknownst us she we had

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names in the first three envelopes so

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after five minutes our energy field

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shrink just a little bit after ten

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minutes it continued to shrink after 15

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minutes it shrank even more and half

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when in the last envelope where there

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was no name we saw a restoration in our

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emotional energy field so the GDD scan

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was picking up an autonomic response did

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we see that same of impact in the

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physical energy field yes

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but not to the same extent and we saw

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the same shrinkage and chakra size and

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even more pronounced than what we saw

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earlier so the key takeaways was that

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there's a predictable consistent and

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measurable effect on an individual's

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energy field for somebody going through

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the Bankston treatment and it really

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appears that there's a unique energy

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profile or signature now the treatment

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definitely appears to produce more

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excited state in the autonomic in the

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sympathetic nervous system and it really

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appears more in the emotional versus the

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physical energy field now with gdb we

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only focused on one of the major metrics

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there's a lot more metrics behind the

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gdv output

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related to organ vitality that really

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could help us better understand what the

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energetic underpinnings from an organ

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and an

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what some of the questions was did by

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telling people not the image cycle did

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that produce the effect the opposite

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effect of people cycling subconsciously

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and perhaps that was a case but that

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really gives us an indication of what's

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our inability or ability to turn on or

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off the Bengston energy and the

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autonomic responses to the stimulus are

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definitely recognized by the GTV scans

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and it proves that reactions can occur

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to anybody trained in the Bankston

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method and just not by Bill himself so

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it doesn't speak to whether healing can

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necessarily be taught because none of

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our scans were taken before learning

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dubbed the Bankston method but just

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shows that the impact can occur among

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people who are not bill and it proves

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that subjective assessments again are

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just unreliable we need more objective

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pieces of data and that resonant bonding

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effects are really alive and well

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Bernadette was the key in all both

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experiments if she did not participate

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in both the first and second envelope

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experiment how would that have changed

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results and how would how would have the

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results differed if we had patients who

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burnin that had not known and we got

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those names from a doctor we hadn't

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never been in contact with those are

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some questions that are still left

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unanswered and so some of the broader

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implications is that why is the effect

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happening in the motional field rather

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than the physical energy field so does

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that suggest that healing happens not in

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the body but in the quantum energy field

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and what's the role of excitement and

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healing for example in energy and

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emotion and Kent had talked about this a

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little bit earlier when you have ritual

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you don't get excited anymore

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and when you have ritual that may

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diminish the impact of healing and

556
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lastly how can gdb be used to supplement

557
00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:19,950
future energy work research because gdb

558
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,020
scans we just touched upon a little bit

559
00:23:26,419 --> 00:23:24,480
of the major summary measures but you

560
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,429
cannot understand the vitality levels of

561
00:23:29,849 --> 00:23:28,799
the different organs based on different

562
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:29,859
energy modality

563
00:23:34,089 --> 00:23:32,330
so we have a lot of questions left

564
00:23:35,889 --> 00:23:34,099
unanswered but hopefully it gave us some

565
00:23:37,749 --> 00:23:35,899
food for thought as we had the lunch and

566
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:37,759
I really appreciate your time

567
00:23:46,959 --> 00:23:44,809
thank you for your question thank you we

568
00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:46,969
only have time for maybe two questions

569
00:23:56,589 --> 00:23:49,070
at best so if we have a couple people

570
00:23:59,889 --> 00:23:56,599
who have a question right now so I

571
00:24:04,839 --> 00:23:59,899
assume that you measuring area correct

572
00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:04,849
okay because the gdv has probably 50

573
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:06,289
different parameters you could have

574
00:24:10,930 --> 00:24:08,210
measured and I assume there are no

575
00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:10,940
changes in the other parameters and the

576
00:24:15,310 --> 00:24:13,190
largest changes were in the area so my

577
00:24:19,209 --> 00:24:15,320
question is that since you're observing

578
00:24:22,539 --> 00:24:19,219
a decrease in in the energy emissions

579
00:24:24,729 --> 00:24:22,549
from a healer in basically without the

580
00:24:26,409 --> 00:24:24,739
filter how does this data compare with

581
00:24:28,450 --> 00:24:26,419
all the other experiments that have been

582
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:28,460
done with currently in photography which

583
00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:31,129
is basically the same as gdv without the

584
00:24:37,419 --> 00:24:33,830
filter of course all curl old currently

585
00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:37,429
in Data never used filters so and

586
00:24:42,159 --> 00:24:39,320
there's a lot of studies which has shown

587
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:42,169
that healers and meat more energy when

588
00:24:47,049 --> 00:24:44,210
they heal now you're telling us that

589
00:24:50,169 --> 00:24:47,059
this healer emits less energy when he

590
00:24:52,269 --> 00:24:50,179
heals it doesn't seem to jive I think

591
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:52,279
the clarification is that when you see a

592
00:24:56,499 --> 00:24:54,529
lower number it means there's more sweat

593
00:24:59,529 --> 00:24:56,509
on the fingertips so it means there's

594
00:25:02,019 --> 00:24:59,539
that's an interpretation I'm talking

595
00:25:04,389 --> 00:25:02,029
about the raw data you're measuring

596
00:25:07,989 --> 00:25:04,399
whatever currently and measures whether

597
00:25:09,549 --> 00:25:07,999
it's sympathetic paris's photons I don't

598
00:25:11,589 --> 00:25:09,559
think it's measuring photon but you know

599
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:11,599
whatever it measures you're getting a

600
00:25:16,810 --> 00:25:14,960
decrease and all other studies like this

601
00:25:20,019 --> 00:25:16,820
in the past have shown an increase with

602
00:25:22,450 --> 00:25:20,029
Kirlian it could be it could be

603
00:25:24,639 --> 00:25:22,460
something unique to the system or is it

604
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:24,649
unique to build and have you actually

605
00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:26,690
done bill gets the same thing as well as

606
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:30,769
the students a decrease well I haven't

607
00:25:35,619 --> 00:25:32,690
taken enough scans of bill to come out

608
00:25:36,669 --> 00:25:35,629
other conclusion on that okay just think

609
00:25:39,060 --> 00:25:36,679
about I think it's a good question